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	<title>Comments on: Would I use Motilee?</title>
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	<description>Everything you wanted to know about Symfony framework but did not know who to ask!</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Symfony.es &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Una semana con Symfony #22 (3 - 9 diciembre 2007)</title>
		<link>http://www.symfonylab.com/would-i-use-motilee/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Symfony.es &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Una semana con Symfony #22 (3 - 9 diciembre 2007)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rpsblog.com &#187; A week of symfony #49 (3-&#38;gt;9 december 2007)</title>
		<link>http://www.symfonylab.com/would-i-use-motilee/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>rpsblog.com &#187; A week of symfony #49 (3-&#38;gt;9 december 2007)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ryan Weaver</title>
		<link>http://www.symfonylab.com/would-i-use-motilee/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I definitely do like what they've done with the sfSupportPlugin - a true "plugin" in the strictest sense.

The two "types" of plugins - the current simplePlugins and the proposed verySimplePlugins - really have 2 fundamentally different uses. The first is to be integrated into a larger project - the second is to function as a stand-along part. I do like the idea of verySimplePlugins - but my vote will always go for power.

As far as having them both, I say great. But who will step up to the plate to keep essentially two branched versions of the same plugin up to date?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I definitely do like what they&#8217;ve done with the sfSupportPlugin - a true &#8220;plugin&#8221; in the strictest sense.</p>
<p>The two &#8220;types&#8221; of plugins - the current simplePlugins and the proposed verySimplePlugins - really have 2 fundamentally different uses. The first is to be integrated into a larger project - the second is to function as a stand-along part. I do like the idea of verySimplePlugins - but my vote will always go for power.</p>
<p>As far as having them both, I say great. But who will step up to the plate to keep essentially two branched versions of the same plugin up to date?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Nolan</title>
		<link>http://www.symfonylab.com/would-i-use-motilee/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Nolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thoughts and I can see where you're coming from.  A lot of these packaged functionality plugins suffer from both being too complex and too simple.

I love behavio(u)rs as well and have a couple lined up for release (just need the nod from the bosses!).  The commentable behaviour is an excellent example of the sort of functionality I like - you can drop it on top of a model and it gives you a simple set of features, integrated well.

But there is a place for more complete module plugins.  Writing a forum is something I've done in the past and have no wish to repeat - I prefer someone else to handle the spammers for me.  To get a forum closely integrated with a symfony site you really want it written for symfony - I integrated bbPress and it was okay but sfSimpleForum is more seamless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thoughts and I can see where you&#8217;re coming from.  A lot of these packaged functionality plugins suffer from both being too complex and too simple.</p>
<p>I love behavio(u)rs as well and have a couple lined up for release (just need the nod from the bosses!).  The commentable behaviour is an excellent example of the sort of functionality I like - you can drop it on top of a model and it gives you a simple set of features, integrated well.</p>
<p>But there is a place for more complete module plugins.  Writing a forum is something I&#8217;ve done in the past and have no wish to repeat - I prefer someone else to handle the spammers for me.  To get a forum closely integrated with a symfony site you really want it written for symfony - I integrated bbPress and it was okay but sfSimpleForum is more seamless.</p>
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